So in case you’re still puzzling over yesterday’s post, and why it is wrong to hold the views that my opponent has, I’m here to clear up the reasons. Oh, and when I say “wrong,” I don’t mean “morally reprehensible”; I mean that he’s just plain incorrect.
1. Sex =/= Reproduction. The person I was arguing with (I will refer to him as “Larry,” for simplicity’s sake) claims that “Everything revolves around sex and the idea of having sex. we are animals and the purpose of animals is to reproduce, so we keep fucking.” By the way, insert [sic] anywhere in these quotations because I want to keep this post relatively short and sweet. First of all, sex is not the same as reproduction. I have never said that reproduction isn’t necessary to the propagation of a species. It is. Any nimrod with two brain cells to rub together can tell you that extinction is inevitable if a species doesn’t reproduce. Sex is a social act. Reproduction is a biological act. If sociology was an extension of biology, it would be listed as such in schools, but it’s not.
2. Gay people do not reproduce. Okay, so this is probably just idiocy on his part, but based on the claim that “we keep fucking” because our purpose is “to reproduce,” gay people either wouldn’t exist or wouldn’t have a sex drive at all. Why? Well, can you not see the answer already? If the purpose of fucking is to reproduce, and gay people biologically cannot reproduce in gay sex, then why should gay people have a sex drive at all?
3. Lying, WTF? “Everyone lies[.]” Let me just allow you to have that sink in for a moment. Now, it’s true that there is probably not a person in the world who does not at some point lie. However, society is not based around people’s lies. If that were true, scientific knowledge would be withheld or lied about, and we would…well, we would die. End of story.
4. Math is hard! Okay, nothing makes me more irritated than someone using unqualified numbers in a debate. Take, for instance, this: “did you know that 100% of couples surveyed ina well know acreditted study all lied to each by the end of their 3rd date” or “PS, on average a person gets liedd to 200 times a day!” or even “the average man goes 4 minutes before thinking of something else revolving around sex…” Now, ignoring the fact that the last statement negates the presence of women in SOCIETY (which is what the argument was about), the other statements are assertions made without any evidence. AT ALL.
5. You are not God. Anecdotal evidence from a single person is not reliable. Why do I bring this up? Because his argument centers on this: “i kinda love his cock… it’s the reality of gay life, i have never met somone who doesn’t love cock and doesn’t love the idea of more cock[.]” Just because YOU like cock doesn’t mean that EVERY GAY MAN IS OBSESSED WITH IT. Don’t get me wrong; I like cock. I do. But I don’t determine who I love based on the size of his cock.
6. Libertinage and behaviorism lie at odds: I’d just like to say, I never said I don’t believe in evolution. In fact, I said that “[h]umans are animals, by the purely scientific definition.” Evolution is a fact. Actually, I’ve been doing a lot of reading about evolution and the misconceptions surrounding it, and I could probably tell you a whole hell of a lot about the subject. However, that’s not the point. The point is that the ideals that Larry was espousing were an unrealistic mix of libertine and behaviorist sensibilities. For one, libertines believe that they should throw off all restraint, which is essentially what Larry says when he claims that we just keep fucking. However, by claiming that we are animals, he rebuts his own statement. If you’re going to be a libertine, you should NOT have sex for reproduction. The two stances just don’t make sense together.
7. Roman bathhouses were not gay sex sites. First of all, the term is anachronistic in this case. Secondly, that’s just bullshit. Where’s your evidence? And don’t say that Tom of Finland drew it a couple of times, so it must be true.
8. Saying kthxbye!! doesn’t mean you’re correct. Having a defensible standpoint means you are correct.
Check your work. How did you do?
Congratulations on an awesome post. I too worry about the gay world being taken over by these guys who think that life is an orgy and the MVP has the biggest tool and longest stamina. I have to say, you did a great job of explaining things to him. He clearly couldn’t have the same level of discourse you are capable of, and never got the point, but that’s a reflection on him, not you.
Keep fighting the good fight 😉